mmmm can we talk about how much octavian being “bad” shits on survivors like?? he was raised to be ambitious and strong in the same “vincere, aut mori” camp that encourages children to lead and fight like fucking adults of course he’s not gonna be content with not having power. The only reason Reyna and such aren’t like that is because they weren’t raised with that toxic mentality. But for some reason, it’s his fault that he has that perspective. Not only that, but Gaea influencing is also apparently his fault? For fucks sake it’s canon that he thought her speaking to him was Apollo and that he was helping. The way he was manipulated to think was not him, and the books being like “Wow Octavian’s such a piece of shit! Helping Gaea and desperately wanting power! Look at him killing himself! Such a good thing that he was lead to doing that! He killed Gaea who? Sorry all I know is a lil bitch!” is,, bad
and im adding this because i didn’t think i got my point in here clearly enough with my tendency to go off on tangents: Acting like the way Octavian acts is because it’s just his personality and not because of trauma shits on “bad survivors” who act out and aren’t soft and gentle