thor (bisexual muscle jock paradise) and loki (genderfluid chaos twink) r iconic siblings the level of which can be achieved only by g0ds themselves which, yeah
Reminder that even if you don’t have a comfortable or okay relationship with your father, Zeus is a father god and therefore Sky Dad. Happy Father’s Day to Sky Dad.
Zeus is also dad to many many many things and kinds the most horrible charcter in all of Greek mythos (and that’s saying a lot) fuck off Sky Dad you crazy womanizer you.
According to the mythos, Zeus is the father of gods and men. If you’d like to educate yourself further on the mythos you think you’re referencing, I’d recommend you read his page on theoi.com.
Furthermore, this is both a religious post and an acknowledgement that today can be very difficult for people without supportive fathers and father figures. I am going to kindly request that you either be respectful or that you refrain from adding unnecessary, over-simplified commentary.
But, like… as an entity rather than an archetype… didn’t he also… rape a bunch of people. I mean, probably more supportive than my dad, I’m just saying.
Ancient Greeks and Romans did not regard Zeus/Jupiter as a rapist, nor do modern Hellenic and Roman polytheists. The ancient myths were not and are not treated as literal truth by those who worship the deities of the Hellenic and Roman pantheons. The tales of the lovers of Zeus were told to provide exalted lineages for extraordinary human beings or the founders of cities. Moreover, our interpretation of the word rape, “sexual assault”, is very different to the way the word was taken by the ancients, as either “carried away” or “rapture”. To the ancients, what happened in the myths was seduction, not involuntary penetration.
Furthermore, the epithets and cult titles of Zeus (the words used by the ancients to describe him in prayer, worship, and poetry) describe him as a savior, a protector, a wise ruler, and a protector of marriage and women in childbirth.
So, no, Zeus didn’t rape a bunch of people. It might be your opinion, it was probably the opinion of the Christian Fathers, it might even have been Edith Hamilton’s opinion, but it’s not what the ancient Greeks and Romans thought, and it’s offensive to those who worship Zeus today.
the great goddess aphrodite, patron of womanhood and beauty, is a patron to transgender women.
aphrodite, who is war as much as peace, stands by all trans women who must fight for their place in this world.
aphrodite, who is love, shines her adoration on all trans women who welcome it. she knows your heart, and she knows you have earned your place in her heart, too.
Hi. So, we as a community have written on this a lot. Elani of Baring the Aegis wrote “Why do gods have sex with mortals?” (I’m on mobile so I can’t hyperlink), soloontherocks wrote “A list of Reasons” on her old blog (google soloontherocks-moving-refollow a list of reasons). This is just extra reading so you can get more than just my perspective.
The whole of it, though, is that the myths aren’t real. The myths aren’t our sacred text, and they were written by mortals in a sexist society, more sexist than ours is now. It’s not Zeus’ fault that the men who took it upon themselves to write stories about him decided he was going to do some bad things by our standards. You have to understand the societal context that surrounds the myths; the things Zeus did were things that were largely acceptable in Ancient Greece.
Also, even if we were to toy with the idea that they did happen, we can’t…. prove that he did anything. You know? We weren’t there, we didn’t witness anything, and nothing can be proven.
So, all in all, the way you work around this is by reminding yourself that a) the myths were written by sexist mortals who were conditioned by and perpetuated a sexist society, so it’s reflected in their stories and b) he is an amazing god.
He is so much more than his mythology. He is a wonderful and just King, a loving husband, and a gentle hand. To me, he is also a father figure that I did not have in my mortal father. I am in the process of incorporating him into my practice more as well.
I hope this helps. Feel free to drop another line if you have more questions.
No, it definitely did help and Solo’s List of Reasons is one hell of a resource (but the tumblr URLs need to be changed to “soloontherocks-moving-refollow”). And I’m still new enough that I’m following like crazy to find my way around the community.
I suppose because I’m “culturally Christian” (raised in an atheist household), I automatically assumed the myths to be a collection of holy scripture. I’m quite pleased that’s not the case. The ancients wrote myths for their culture, at that time, to display Zeus’s power and might in ways that they understood.
And, since they’re not holy scripture, I’m gonna assume writing myths for the Theoi (from a point of worship and respect) in our current culture would be alright? Taken out of the context of scripture, they’re more like fables to explain the glory of the Gods?
This is something a lot of new Hellenics run into, especially those of us that switched from a Christian faith. It’s hard to wrap your head around the fact that we don’t really have one sacred text. The only thing I can think of that even comes close is the Pillars, but even then, there’s so many authors writing on it that it’s important to craft your own Pillars for your practice.
Also, yes! It’s definitely okay to write myths on the Theoi in a religious sense. Retellings are also pretty common, I know @pomegranateandivy has one about Zeus wooing Hera that I particularly love.